OCTAVIO DOTEL
Born 11-25-1973
Bats R Throws R
Real Stats, No DT
Octavio Dotel Born 19731125 Age 52 Bats R Throws R Height 72 Weight 230 No DT, Real
Year Team Lge G GS IP H R HR BB K GB% NERA W L SV LFRA H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 cSO cBB cHR cBA cDR cDF STF RAR RAA
1995 St_Lucie____ Fla 3 0 8.0 10 5 1 4 9 -59 5.62 1 0 0 3.57 11.2 1.1 4.5 10.1 8 -2 -8 -22 11 5 6 0 3
1996 Columbia____ SAL 22 19 115.3 89 49 7 49 142 -51 3.59 11 3 0 2.74 6.9 .5 3.8 11.1 23 -2 0 -1 0 17 18 29 28
1997 St_Lucie____ Fla 9 8 50.0 44 18 2 23 39 -59 2.52 5 2 0 3.23 7.9 .4 4.1 7.0 2 -5 8 11 19 3 19 19 1
1997 Binghamton__ Eas 12 12 55.7 66 50 5 38 40 -52 5.98 3 4 0 5.84 10.7 .8 6.1 6.5 -9 -9 9 -10 -31 2 -8 -2 -18
1998 Binghamton__ Eas 10 10 68.7 41 19 4 24 82 -49 1.97 4 2 0 2.19 5.4 .5 3.1 10.7 31 1 9 29 -4 6 40 31 48
1998 Norfolk_____ Int 17 16 99.0 82 47 9 43 118 -49 3.45 8 6 0 3.38 7.5 .8 3.9 10.7 31 -2 6 5 -10 -1 23 28 36
1999 Norfolk_____ Int 13 13 70.3 52 33 9 34 90 -40 3.84 5 2 0 3.44 6.7 1.2 4.4 11.5 38 -5 -4 12 -6 -2 18 16 31
1999 NY_Mets_____ NL 19 14 85.3 69 52 12 49 85 42 5.38 8 3 0 4.62 7.3 1.3 5.2 9.0 17 -12 -5 10 -19 5 2 3 5
2000 Houston_____ NL 50 16 125.0 127 80 26 61 142 30 5.40 3 7 16 4.62 9.1 1.9 4.4 10.2 23 -4 -21 -20 5 -4 -17 -1 -13
2001 Houston_____ NL 61 4 105.0 79 35 5 47 145 39 2.66 7 5 2 2.52 6.8 .4 4.0 12.4 36 -5 21 6 2 3 16 29 55
2002 Houston_____ NL 83 0 97.3 58 21 7 27 118 30 1.85 6 4 6 1.96 5.4 .6 2.5 10.9 32 3 8 25 4 -1 21 34 51
2003 Houston_____ NL 76 0 87.0 53 25 9 31 97 42 2.48 6 4 4 2.65 5.5 .9 3.2 10.0 27 -1 1 29 -1 7 16 25 38
2004 Houston_____ NL 32 0 34.7 27 15 4 15 50 27 3.12 0 4 14 3.08 7.0 1.0 3.9 13.0 39 -4 1 -4 -6 -3 8 7 34
2004 Oakland_____ AL 45 0 50.7 41 23 9 18 72 30 4.09 6 2 22 3.51 7.3 1.6 3.2 12.8 43 -2 -17 -12 3 6 5 5 37
2005 Oakland_____ AL 15 0 15.3 10 6 2 11 16 30 3.52 1 2 7 3.68 5.9 1.2 6.5 9.4 18 -14 -3 20 9 7 -9 3 5
2006 StatenIsland NYP 1 0 1.3 2 0 0 0 1 0 .00 0 0 0 3.21 13.5 .0 .0 6.8 1 1 1 -7 10 0 0 1 0
2006 Tampa_______ Fla 2 1 2.3 1 0 0 0 2 25 .00 0 0 0 3.49 3.9 .0 .0 7.7 2 2 2 4 2 0 2 1 1
2006 Trenton_____ Eas 2 0 2.3 1 0 0 0 3 67 .00 0 0 0 3.44 3.9 .0 .0 11.6 4 2 2 2 2 0 4 1 1
2006 Columbus_OH_ Int 5 0 5.3 6 2 1 0 8 57 3.38 0 0 0 3.55 10.1 1.7 .0 13.5 11 3 -7 -17 10 -3 5 1 4
2006 NY_Yankees__ AL 14 0 10.0 18 13 2 11 7 48 10.80 0 0 0 6.35 16.2 1.8 9.9 6.3 -10 -15 -4 -35 -1 4 -13 -6 -18
2006 GCL_Yankees_ GCL 3 2 3.0 0 0 0 1 6 0 .00 0 0 0 3.02 .0 .0 3.0 18.0 9 -2 2 13 2 0 3 2 2
2007 Wichita_____ Tex 3 1 3.0 2 1 0 0 4 40 3.00 0 1 1 3.95 6.0 .0 .0 12.0 6 3 3 3 -6 -1 3 1 2
2007 Atlanta_____ NL 9 0 7.7 5 5 1 1 12 9 4.70 0 0 0 4.07 5.9 1.2 1.2 14.1 19 4 -3 5 -32 1 3 0 12
2007 Kansas_City_ AL 24 0 23.0 24 11 3 11 29 54 3.91 2 1 11 3.81 9.4 1.2 4.3 11.3 26 -11 -2 -21 29 1 8 3 13
2008 ChiSox______ AL 72 0 67.0 52 34 12 29 92 40 3.76 4 4 1 3.74 7.0 1.6 3.9 12.4 36 -6 -19 0 -9 -1 6 9 10
2009 ChiSox______ AL 62 0 62.3 54 26 7 36 75 40 3.32 3 3 0 3.48 7.8 1.0 5.2 10.8 27 -10 3 -5 17 3 -2 12 20
2010 Colorado____ NL 8 0 5.3 6 4 1 4 6 10 5.06 0 1 0 4.25 10.1 1.7 6.8 10.1 2 -4 -4 -2 -1 2 -4 0 -1
2010 LA_Dodgers__ NL 19 0 18.7 11 7 3 11 21 37 3.38 1 1 1 3.41 5.3 1.4 5.3 10.1 19 -10 -15 28 0 0 0 3 9
2010 Pittsburgh__ NL 41 0 40.0 35 21 5 17 48 32 4.28 2 2 21 3.76 7.9 1.1 3.8 10.8 21 -6 -5 -5 -8 -13 0 3 13
2011 St_Louis____ NL 29 0 24.7 16 10 1 5 32 37 3.28 3 3 2 2.46 5.8 .4 1.8 11.7 31 7 14 19 -42 -3 19 5 41
2011 Toronto_____ AL 36 0 29.3 20 13 5 12 30 36 3.68 2 1 1 3.74 6.1 1.5 3.7 9.2 17 -6 -18 22 -8 0 2 4 11
2012 Detroit_____ AL 57 0 58.0 50 23 3 12 62 43 3.57 5 3 1 2.93 7.8 .5 1.9 9.6 18 7 17 5 -14 -7 15 9 28
2013 GCL_Tigers__ GCL 2 2 2.0 0 0 0 0 2 50 .00 0 0 0 3.24 .0 .0 .0 9.0 2 2 1 6 0 0 3 1 1
2013 Lakeland____ Fla 5 2 4.7 9 4 0 0 2 18 7.71 0 1 0 3.93 17.4 .0 .0 3.9 -7 6 4 -14 1 1 -4 -1 -1
2013 Toledo______ Int 3 0 1.3 3 2 0 2 3 0 13.50 0 0 0 4.12 20.2 .0 13.5 20.2 3 -3 2 -16 0 0 -4 -1 0
2013 Detroit_____ AL 6 0 4.7 10 7 0 4 4 50 13.50 0 0 0 4.91 19.3 .0 7.7 7.7 -5 -4 9 -21 -15 -1 -6 -4 -3
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Majors 64 3 80.6 65 37 10 35 97 36 3.78 5 4 9 3.42 7.2 1.1 3.9 10.8 27 -4 -2 4 -3 0 5 20 22
Minors 38 29 171.0 142 80 13 76 191 49 3.55 13 7 0 3.35 7.5 .7 4.0 10.1 21 -3 4 6 -4 5 18 47 22
Totals 55 7 92.2 75 42 10 40 108 41 3.70 6 5 7 3.39 7.3 1.0 3.9 10.6 25 -4 0 5 -3 2 10 24 21
Regular DT
Octavio Dotel Born 19731125 Age 52 Bats R Throws R Height 72 Weight 230 Regular PDT
Year Team Lge G GS IP H R HR BB K GB% NERA W L SV LFRA H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 cSO cBB cHR cBA cDR cDF STF RAR RAA
1995 St_Lucie____ Fla 3 0 7.0 13 7 3 5 5 -53 9.00 0 1 0 5.28 16.7 3.9 6.4 6.4 -3 -4 -21 -34 11 5 -3 -3 -4
1996 Columbia____ SAL 22 19 100.0 136 78 19 59 65 -45 7.02 3 8 0 5.78 12.2 1.7 5.3 5.8 -6 -8 -15 -37 0 18 -18 -15 -36
1997 St_Lucie____ Fla 9 8 47.3 53 22 5 28 23 -53 4.18 2 3 0 4.82 10.1 1.0 5.3 4.4 -15 -10 3 -3 19 3 0 9 -26
1997 Binghamton__ Eas 12 12 55.7 74 51 7 39 23 -47 8.25 1 5 0 6.56 12.0 1.1 6.3 3.7 -22 -13 1 -20 -30 2 -23 -16 -39
1998 Binghamton__ Eas 10 10 62.3 56 30 7 29 44 -44 4.33 3 4 0 4.31 8.1 1.0 4.2 6.4 3 -7 -2 8 -4 6 13 12 -4
1998 Norfolk_____ Int 17 16 93.7 97 57 13 47 74 -44 5.48 4 6 0 4.74 9.3 1.2 4.5 7.1 6 -8 -5 -10 -10 -1 3 4 -11
1999 Norfolk_____ Int 13 13 66.0 64 41 12 37 57 -36 5.59 2 5 0 4.82 8.7 1.6 5.0 7.8 10 -11 -17 -8 -6 -2 -2 2 -21
1999 NY_Mets_____ NL 19 14 86.0 76 49 12 43 75 41 5.13 4 6 0 4.55 8.0 1.3 4.5 7.8 12 -10 -8 2 -18 5 1 6 -4
2000 Houston_____ NL 50 16 131.0 132 71 25 53 125 29 4.88 6 9 16 4.32 9.1 1.7 3.6 8.6 16 -4 -20 -16 5 -4 -17 6 -17
2001 Houston_____ NL 61 4 106.7 88 35 5 46 123 37 2.95 8 4 2 2.79 7.4 .4 3.9 10.4 29 -5 17 2 2 3 9 26 42
2002 Houston_____ NL 83 0 99.3 62 21 8 25 104 29 1.90 9 2 5 2.24 5.6 .7 2.3 9.4 27 2 7 27 4 -1 17 35 44
2003 Houston_____ NL 76 0 89.0 60 26 9 30 86 39 2.63 7 3 3 2.98 6.1 .9 3.0 8.7 21 -2 -1 23 -1 7 11 24 27
2004 Houston_____ NL 32 0 35.3 29 15 4 15 44 26 3.82 2 2 10 3.35 7.4 1.0 3.8 11.2 31 -5 -2 -5 -6 -3 2 5 25
2004 Oakland_____ AL 45 0 51.0 44 22 9 18 66 30 3.88 3 3 18 3.46 7.8 1.6 3.2 11.6 35 -1 -18 -17 3 6 1 6 29
2005 Oakland_____ AL 15 0 15.0 11 6 2 12 15 30 3.60 1 1 5 3.75 6.6 1.2 7.2 9.0 16 -14 -4 12 9 7 -13 2 2
2006 StatenIsland NYP 1 0 .7 2 0 0 0 0 0 .00 0 0 0 4.09 27.0 .0 .0 .0 -1 0 1 -7 10 0 -2 0 0
2006 Tampa_______ Fla 2 1 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 21 .00 0 0 0 4.00 4.5 .0 .0 4.5 0 1 1 3 2 0 0 1 0
2006 Trenton_____ Eas 2 0 2.0 2 0 0 0 2 58 .00 0 0 0 3.95 9.0 .0 .0 9.0 2 1 2 0 2 0 2 1 0
2006 Columbus_OH_ Int 5 0 4.7 7 3 2 1 5 51 5.79 0 1 0 4.43 13.5 3.9 1.9 9.6 5 1 -14 -21 10 -3 1 0 1
2006 NY_Yankees__ AL 14 0 11.0 18 12 2 11 6 48 9.82 0 1 0 6.01 14.7 1.6 9.0 4.9 -10 -14 -5 -38 -1 4 -13 -6 -19
2006 GCL_Yankees_ GCL 3 2 2.7 1 0 0 2 2 0 .00 0 0 0 4.07 3.4 .0 6.8 6.8 1 -5 2 7 2 0 -1 1 -1
2007 Wichita_____ Tex 3 1 3.0 3 2 0 0 2 36 6.00 0 0 1 4.04 9.0 .0 .0 6.0 2 2 3 1 -6 -1 2 0 1
2007 Atlanta_____ NL 9 0 8.3 5 5 1 1 11 9 5.40 0 1 0 3.87 5.4 1.1 1.1 11.9 18 4 -3 4 -32 1 8 0 13
2007 Kansas_City_ AL 24 0 24.7 25 10 3 11 27 54 3.65 2 1 12 3.55 9.1 1.1 4.0 9.9 22 -9 -3 -20 28 1 6 4 11
2008 ChiSox______ AL 72 0 71.0 54 31 12 27 86 41 3.93 4 4 1 3.56 6.8 1.5 3.4 10.9 33 -4 -19 0 -8 -1 3 8 9
2009 ChiSox______ AL 62 0 63.0 57 24 7 33 68 41 3.43 4 3 0 3.26 8.1 1.0 4.7 9.7 24 -7 2 -7 16 3 -3 11 18
2010 Colorado____ NL 8 0 6.3 6 4 1 4 5 10 5.68 0 1 0 4.36 8.5 1.4 5.7 7.1 2 -3 -4 -2 -1 2 -5 0 -1
2010 LA_Dodgers__ NL 19 0 19.3 13 7 3 10 18 36 3.26 1 1 1 3.75 6.1 1.4 4.7 8.4 17 -9 -18 23 0 0 -3 4 8
2010 Pittsburgh__ NL 41 0 41.3 36 20 6 16 41 31 4.35 2 3 26 3.91 7.8 1.3 3.5 8.9 19 -5 -7 -1 -8 -13 -3 3 11
2011 St_Louis____ NL 29 0 25.7 18 11 1 5 28 37 3.86 2 1 1 2.82 6.3 .4 1.8 9.8 30 7 14 20 -41 -3 13 3 39
2011 Toronto_____ AL 36 0 30.3 22 13 5 12 27 37 3.86 2 1 1 3.82 6.5 1.5 3.6 8.0 16 -5 -18 21 -8 0 -1 4 11
2012 Detroit_____ AL 57 0 59.7 51 21 3 12 52 44 3.17 4 3 1 2.97 7.7 .5 1.8 7.8 17 7 16 9 -14 -7 12 12 28
2013 GCL_Tigers__ GCL 2 2 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 40 .00 0 0 0 4.01 .0 .0 .0 4.5 0 1 1 5 0 0 1 1 0
2013 Lakeland____ Fla 5 2 4.3 10 4 0 1 1 17 8.31 0 0 0 4.60 20.8 .0 2.1 2.1 -9 4 4 -17 1 1 -6 -2 -2
2013 Toledo______ Int 3 0 1.3 3 2 0 2 2 0 13.50 0 0 0 4.48 20.2 .0 13.5 13.5 1 -3 2 -15 0 0 -6 -1 0
2013 Detroit_____ AL 6 0 5.3 10 6 0 4 3 52 10.12 0 1 0 5.01 16.9 .0 6.8 5.1 -4 -3 9 -21 -15 -1 -6 -3 -3
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Majors 62 3 80.6 67 34 10 32 83 36 3.76 5 4 8 3.46 7.5 1.1 3.6 9.3 22 -4 -3 3 -3 0 2 20 17
Minors 42 32 171.0 196 112 26 94 115 44 5.88 6 12 0 5.14 10.3 1.3 4.9 6.1 -3 -9 -7 -14 -4 5 -5 2 -21
Totals 55 7 92.2 86 45 12 41 85 39 4.43 5 5 7 3.99 8.4 1.2 4.0 8.3 14 -5 -4 -3 -3 2 0 16 7
Peak (Age-adjusted) DT
Octavio Dotel Born 19731125 Age 52 Bats R Throws R Height 72 Weight 230 Peak PDT
Year Team Lge G GS IP H R HR BB K GB% NERA W L SV LFRA H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 cSO cBB cHR cBA cDR cDF STF RAR RAA
1995 St_Lucie____ Fla 3 0 7.3 12 6 2 4 5 -53 7.36 0 1 0 5.27 14.7 2.5 4.9 6.1 -2 -3 -18 -31 3 5 -1 -2 -3
1996 Columbia____ SAL 22 19 101.3 134 75 18 57 68 -45 6.66 3 8 0 5.57 11.9 1.6 5.1 6.0 -5 -7 -13 -34 0 18 1 -11 -30
1997 St_Lucie____ Fla 9 8 47.7 52 22 5 27 23 -53 4.15 2 3 0 5.01 9.8 .9 5.1 4.3 -15 -10 3 -2 5 3 4 9 -24
1997 Binghamton__ Eas 12 12 56.0 74 49 7 38 23 -47 7.88 1 5 0 6.00 11.9 1.1 6.1 3.7 -21 -13 2 -19 -7 2 -9 -13 -37
1998 Binghamton__ Eas 10 10 62.3 56 30 7 29 45 -44 4.33 3 4 0 4.20 8.1 1.0 4.2 6.5 3 -7 -2 8 -1 6 23 12 -3
1998 Norfolk_____ Int 17 16 94.0 97 56 13 46 74 -44 5.36 4 6 0 4.53 9.3 1.2 4.4 7.1 6 -7 -5 -10 -2 -1 19 6 -9
1999 Norfolk_____ Int 13 13 66.0 64 41 12 37 57 -36 5.59 2 5 0 4.74 8.7 1.6 5.0 7.8 10 -11 -17 -8 -2 -2 20 2 -21
1999 NY_Mets_____ NL 19 14 86.0 77 49 12 43 75 41 5.13 4 6 0 4.29 8.1 1.3 4.5 7.8 12 -10 -8 2 -5 5 23 6 -4
2000 Houston_____ NL 50 16 131.0 132 71 25 53 125 29 4.88 6 9 16 4.40 9.1 1.7 3.6 8.6 16 -4 -20 -17 1 -4 4 6 -17
2001 Houston_____ NL 61 4 107.0 87 35 5 46 124 37 2.94 8 4 2 2.79 7.3 .4 3.9 10.4 29 -5 17 2 1 3 27 26 43
2002 Houston_____ NL 83 0 99.7 61 20 7 25 105 29 1.81 9 2 5 2.24 5.5 .6 2.3 9.5 28 2 8 28 1 -1 29 36 46
2003 Houston_____ NL 76 0 89.3 59 25 9 29 88 39 2.52 7 3 3 2.86 5.9 .9 2.9 8.9 22 -2 0 24 0 7 21 25 30
2004 Houston_____ NL 32 0 35.7 29 15 4 14 44 26 3.79 2 2 10 3.14 7.3 1.0 3.5 11.1 32 -5 -1 -3 -1 -3 24 5 27
2004 Oakland_____ AL 45 0 51.3 43 21 9 17 67 30 3.68 3 3 18 3.37 7.5 1.6 3.0 11.7 36 -1 -17 -15 1 6 24 8 31
2005 Oakland_____ AL 15 0 15.0 11 6 2 11 16 30 3.60 1 1 5 3.79 6.6 1.2 6.6 9.6 17 -14 -3 13 2 7 6 2 4
2006 StatenIsland NYP 1 0 .7 2 0 0 0 0 0 .00 0 0 0 4.23 27.0 .0 .0 .0 -1 0 1 -7 3 0 -3 0 0
2006 Tampa_______ Fla 2 1 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 21 .00 0 0 0 4.03 4.5 .0 .0 4.5 0 1 2 3 0 0 0 1 0
2006 Trenton_____ Eas 2 0 2.0 2 0 0 0 2 58 .00 0 0 0 3.98 9.0 .0 .0 9.0 2 1 2 1 0 0 2 1 0
2006 Columbus_OH_ Int 5 0 4.7 7 3 2 1 5 51 5.79 0 1 0 4.53 13.5 3.9 1.9 9.6 5 1 -14 -20 3 -3 2 0 1
2006 NY_Yankees__ AL 14 0 11.0 18 12 2 11 7 48 9.82 0 1 0 5.92 14.7 1.6 9.0 5.7 -10 -14 -4 -38 0 4 -10 -6 -19
2006 GCL_Yankees_ GCL 3 2 2.7 1 0 0 2 2 0 .00 0 0 0 4.07 3.4 .0 6.8 6.8 1 -4 2 7 1 0 -1 1 0
2007 Wichita_____ Tex 3 1 3.0 2 2 0 0 3 36 6.00 0 0 1 3.93 6.0 .0 .0 9.0 2 2 3 1 -1 -1 3 0 1
2007 Atlanta_____ NL 9 0 8.3 5 5 1 1 12 9 5.40 0 1 0 3.35 5.4 1.1 1.1 13.0 19 4 -2 4 -8 1 9 0 13
2007 Kansas_City_ AL 24 0 25.0 24 10 3 10 27 54 3.60 2 1 12 3.86 8.6 1.1 3.6 9.7 23 -9 -2 -19 7 1 12 4 12
2008 ChiSox______ AL 72 0 71.3 53 30 12 27 88 41 3.79 4 4 1 3.30 6.7 1.5 3.4 11.1 34 -4 -17 2 -2 -1 20 10 13
2009 ChiSox______ AL 62 0 63.3 56 23 6 33 70 41 3.27 4 3 0 3.40 8.0 .9 4.7 9.9 25 -7 3 -6 4 3 11 12 21
2010 Colorado____ NL 8 0 6.3 6 4 1 4 5 10 5.68 0 1 0 4.30 8.5 1.4 5.7 7.1 2 -3 -4 -1 0 2 -2 0 -1
2010 LA_Dodgers__ NL 19 0 19.3 13 7 3 10 18 36 3.26 1 1 1 3.63 6.1 1.4 4.7 8.4 18 -9 -16 24 0 0 6 4 9
2010 Pittsburgh__ NL 41 0 41.7 36 19 5 16 42 31 4.10 3 2 26 3.68 7.8 1.1 3.5 9.1 20 -5 -5 0 -2 -13 10 4 13
2011 St_Louis____ NL 29 0 25.7 17 10 1 5 28 37 3.51 2 1 1 2.12 6.0 .4 1.8 9.8 31 7 15 20 -10 -3 14 4 41
2011 Toronto_____ AL 36 0 30.7 21 12 5 12 27 37 3.52 2 1 1 3.58 6.2 1.5 3.5 7.9 17 -4 -16 22 -2 0 6 5 13
2012 Detroit_____ AL 57 0 60.0 51 20 3 12 53 44 3.00 5 2 1 2.69 7.7 .4 1.8 7.9 18 7 16 10 -4 -7 16 13 42
2013 GCL_Tigers__ GCL 2 2 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 40 .00 0 0 0 4.01 .0 .0 .0 4.5 0 1 1 5 0 0 1 1 0
2013 Lakeland____ Fla 5 2 4.3 10 4 0 1 1 17 8.31 0 0 0 4.61 20.8 .0 2.1 2.1 -9 4 4 -17 0 1 -5 -2 -2
2013 Toledo______ Int 3 0 1.3 3 2 0 2 2 0 13.50 0 0 0 4.47 20.2 .0 13.5 13.5 1 -3 2 -15 0 0 -2 -1 0
2013 Detroit_____ AL 6 0 5.3 10 6 0 4 3 52 10.12 0 1 0 4.77 16.9 .0 6.8 5.1 -4 -3 9 -21 -4 -1 -5 -3 -3
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Majors 62 3 80.6 66 33 9 31 84 36 3.66 5 4 8 3.36 7.4 1.1 3.5 9.4 23 -3 -2 3 0 0 17 21 19
Minors 41 32 171.0 193 108 25 91 117 44 5.71 6 12 0 4.97 10.2 1.3 4.8 6.1 -2 -8 -6 -13 -1 5 9 6 -18
Totals 55 7 92.2 85 44 12 40 86 39 4.31 5 5 7 3.87 8.3 1.1 3.9 8.3 15 -5 -4 -2 -1 2 15 17 8